In this episode, I speak with Gaëlle Batot, Project Manager for ARUP Laboratories, a national clinical diagnostic reference laboratory. Initially planning on going to medical school in her native France, Gaëlle didn't pass the entrance examination and so instead trained to become a laboratory technician. This lead her to graduate school in Grenoble, where she earned a PhD in structural biology, followed by postdoctoral fellowships in the United States. While volunteering for the postdoc associations at the University of California, Irvine and the University of Utah, she discovered that she particularly enjoyed the aspects of her work typically associated with project management, and this led her to learn more about engaging and motivating teams. Additional formal project management training helped prepare her for her current position at ARUP. We’ll talk about all these experiences and of course find out about what her job is like.